Rich Witmer: My God is bigger than your God
The following e-mail conversation took place between Rich Witmer and a friend of mine on Oct 24, 2006. My friend comments on Rich's insults to me and questions his acquisition of a luxury car while members of his flock barely make ends meet.
My friends e-mail: Anyone who is truly a spokesman for the Lord God Jesus Christ would not SAY the things you've said, the catty little bitch remarks and insults you've made because SOMEONE actually DARES to prove you for what you really are. A TRUE Christian leader would not need to harass and insult someone who disagreed with their point of view.
An HONEST, RESPECTABLE pastor wouldn't be driving an expensive ass car & bragging about his houses, while at the same time strangling the financial life out of the TRUE followers of Christ.
Rich's response: you're so sweet and are truly a fine example of a Christian young woman. I pre-ordered a 2007 BMW. God has blessed me tremendously. I guess my God is bigger than your God.
-Pastor Rich Witmer




well, I was under the impression that wether we call our God allah, buddah, or Lord we all have the same the God. Last thing I knew we had the same God, so I don't know where the Pastor gets his ideas from, but I am somewhat relieved my intuition was right, but I am sadden I lost someone I love to people like that. All I can do is pray he see's the truth, Gods truth not Pastors Rich truth.
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I'm not sure how well this Pastor or any one of us knows this proverb: Mark 10:25, and Luke 18:25, "Do not accumulate wealth on earth, but accumulate wealth in heaven.
"It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
* Many people that do want all possessions on earth end up in dept. and mostly seeking ways or people that promise wealth. My friends that is not what God wants for us.
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I don't see how pastors can buy in good conscience new cars that depreciate in value most rapidly. I don't begrudge them having a respectable conservative car, but a 2007 BMW, though a fine car, is bought with monies received from people "giving to God". It just makes me gag to think a pastor would buy something so wasteful using money given as an offering. But a used one. What incredible exploitation this is. Bah.
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And what about the poor widow who gave little but yet it was all she had? Who was her God? Why wasn't she blessed with the equivalent of a BMW? So many faithful followers of Jesus Christ are not wealthy.(not in the materialistic sense) I refuse to accept that they are simply not good enough according to the standards of Rich Witmer.
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I've know of Generation Church since its commencement. I was pretty much told that if I wasn't a part of their "church," I was going to hell. I see this as a cult. No other religion will tell me that my religion is evil and that will go to hell if I don't convert. Any other true church (religion) will respect my decisions of belief. As for a Rich Witmer, he is a business man not a Pastor. God's home shouldn't be a corporation but a home to all.
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I am so sorry you have gone through this. This church originated off of the Door church in Yuma. It is a cult. People who brag about riches that their God has gifted to them and because of their monetary value, God is bigger than yours, are not true Christian people. Yes, God wants to bless us further than we can even imagine. It is not always in monetary value. It is not even worth your time to address these people because they are narcissistic and think they are bigger than God. You need to just step back and let God. He will take care of the matter. They have now joined with the River church and it surprises me. I know Pastor McDonald at the River church and he has gotten all wrapped up into this G12 stuff, too. You see, the problem is that God is forgotten because too many people are looking for praise when they start their own G12 group. The focus is no longer on God and your right, it becomes a bit culty. Just pray for these people, they really need a touch from God and have no idea what the word Christianity means. God will take care of them. Trust me.
Cheri
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i'm very hurt by all that i've seen concerning this Rich pastor, tears fill my eyes just reading all the things he says, someone who talks like that cannot possibly have Jesus in his heart, for there wouldn't be so much anger as he has...
my fiance attends this church, and has asked me numerous times to go, BUT WHEN I ASK HIM TO GO TO MY CHURCH HE SAYS THAT CELEBRATING THE VIRGIN MARY IS STUPID! is this something that he picked up at generations? i do not know...but i'm determined, as a college student attending school to require a degree in journalism, to get to the bottom of this, for my sake and the sake of my fiance's spiritual security...
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damn this guy is soooooo imature i hate how he uses god to justify his materialitic ways.
i hate to say this but the people who attend this church it may be impossible for them to think for themselves now.. they're already brainwashed and too screwed up.
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This is absolutely hilarious! I seriously fell off my chair when I found out about this!! Rich Witmer is a joke! I dated him many yrs ago and did lots of drinking and other stuff with him to say the least. He was so proud of his CRX back then you would have thought it was a Lexus or something!! I can still see his fat ass trying to get in that little car!! Oh Rich, need we remind you of where you came from...and the things you did!! I really thought he was going to be a good car salesman back then! Pastor my ass!
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LMAO! Ha that is some funny stuff! What a chump Rich is.
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Im not from yuma but ive visited generations a couple of times because i have friends who are brainwashed members. i immediatly saw the that this church wasnt about christ and who christ is.oh how my heart is broken with the fact that pastor rich spreads false doctrine. Ill pray for all you, churched, unchurched and misled. Those of you who have easily seen through the hypocracy and deceit pls continue to expose him and pray for these lost people. other churches should unite and be encouraged to be the church (body) that christ called us to be. That is loving humble servants who do not store or treasures on earth but in heaven. God is about love, healing, restoring broken hurting lives not about monetary gains.
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I heard about this Generations Cult Website about 6 months ago, and I finally started investigating & reading the stories, every single one of them are a perfect description on how bizarre & wrong Generations is.
This e-mail, wow.... I cannot believe it, not only is saying "my God is bigger than you God" extremely & just utterly wrong, but fitting God & BMW into the same exact sentence... wow.. It honestly sounds like one of those cat fights freshman yr of high school where girls say "yeah well, my boyfriend can beat up your boyfriend"
I have lived in Yuma for 16 yrs, I went to a Baptist school for 9 years, and a catholic school for 4. I know the Bible pretty well, and I believe in the power of prayer completely. However, Generations is not the place to go if you want to be closer to an actual relationship with God.
I have been to Generations Church once, and I will NEVER go back. You walk in and if you have any kind of common sense its CREEPY! Yeah, cool light show, fun music, but if anyone has every seen a zombie movie, that is what it's like...
Of course you can find these GC people all over town, especially at Starbucks, oh geeze, I had this one girl come up to me & invite me to the "bible study" there was just something soooo fake about her, it was unreal.
Yes, church is one of the best ways to help and individual out in their faith, but if you don't want to go, or at least not yet.. If you want some good Christian rock music D.C. Talk & TobyMac are amazing, you want to have more interest in reading the Bible, go to any Christian book story there are some really sweet bibles out there, and if you want to give your money to God, find something you care about, (breast cancer awareness, diabetes, etc) something you are passionate about & help them out. An individual does NOT NEED to be part of a huge church, to be accepted by God.
Stay away from GC!!!!! lol :p
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